Monday, January 4, 2010

Anyone Else Drunk Already?

Alright, let's not get locked into this "Bill Peduto" frame of mind. What else we got?

I say we give Sally Kern the scare of a lifetime.
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14 comments:

  1. AnonymousJanuary 4, 2010 at 8:02 AM

    in spite of who is chosen for council prez, what is to stop council from forming a post election progressive coalition? in addition to kraus peduto shields and rudiak, both dowd and Burgess have authored progressive legislation in the past and lavelle has shown progressive leanings. Is cobbing a majority, and maybe even a veto proof majority by catching two out of the three ? These are fairly well educated folk who would seem to be persuadable.

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  2. Mark RauterkusJanuary 4, 2010 at 9:05 AM

    What scares me is that Kraus isn't progressive -- at all.

    The attitude of "To the victors go the spoils" isn't progressive nor tolerant.

    Remember, getting veto proof isn't all it takes as Kraus has authored and championed big governement bills that have been shot down in the courts. That's not progress nor progressive -- it is fruitless.

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  3. Bram ReichbaumJanuary 4, 2010 at 10:18 AM

    You guys, it's looking strongly like it's going to be Darlene or Bruce, probably Darlene. Swearingins about to get underway.

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  4. AnonymousJanuary 4, 2010 at 10:47 AM

    With Bruce as finance chair?

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  5. MariaJanuary 4, 2010 at 11:23 AM

    Would explain the glowing...

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  6. MariaJanuary 4, 2010 at 11:46 AM

    It's Peduto for Finance. YAY!

    All announced chairs: here

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  7. Bram ReichbaumJanuary 4, 2010 at 12:22 PM

    I'm in transit, but this is just a quick note to write that I couldn't be happier. An actual, even ultimate compromise candidate. It's a FUNCTIONAL compromise, not a literal one, as in "Okay guys, let's all agree to do this" but Harris is as squarely down the middle as it gets in real life. To the extent that she has usually been considered a mayoral vote, that's been counteracted by her picking Bill as Finance Chair. Which speaks to her practicality.

    Couldn't be happier!

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  8. JenEnglandJanuary 4, 2010 at 3:19 PM

    Mark, your definition of progressive is not universal. Or, rather, maybe a lot of folks identifying themselves as progressive are actually liberals who were chased away from the label by a conservative smear campaign. I would categorize myself as a liberal. Though we (you and I) have teamed up on numerous issues, and will no doubt do so in the future, our fundamental beliefs about government are different. We are ideologically NOT aligned. But being able to make alliances with other community members when appropriate and important is perhaps the mark of a functioning democracy, no?

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  9. BODJanuary 4, 2010 at 3:40 PM

    What is 'progressive' about anyone on City Council? It seems that the 'progressives' talk a good game but when it actually comes time for action, the status quo of crap is never challenged.

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  10. Conservative MountaineerJanuary 4, 2010 at 4:19 PM

    @JenEngland..

    Liberals didn't start using Progressive because a Conservative 'smear campaign'. Liberals stopped using Liberal because the majority of this Country is more Conservative than Liberal and the Liberals had to find another label for themselves that was more 'touch-feely' 'Rodney King Can't we just all get along'.

    Funny thing is (true) Conservatives do not mind being called Conservative. Liberals, apparently, were ashamed to be called Liberals.

    I have much more respect for a true Liberal who says they're a Liberal than a disingenious Liberal who tries to pass him/herself as a Progressive.

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  11. Liberal KeystonerJanuary 4, 2010 at 4:50 PM

    I agree. Let's call a spade a spade and put an end to conservatives trying to pass themselves off as independents or Libertarians or populists. Talk about your touchy-feely, "We The People", tea party hypocrites!

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  12. Conservative MountaineerJanuary 4, 2010 at 7:30 PM

    True Conservatives do nothing of that. Independents.. pffft. Squishy, I can't make up my own 'stick' my finger in the wind' types (a/k/a 'moderates'). Libertarians.. please. All they want to do do is legalize pot. Populists.. that's the baliwick of RINOs (Republicans in Name Only).

    Conservatives are not ashamed to be called a Conservative. I'm not. Liberals, on the other hand, would rather by change their 'public identity' so as to confuse the electorate. "See, weeeee're progressive! They're not. They're neanderthals."

    Nice try. Thanks for playing. I'd give you and your liberal buds a prize, but you're probably already sucking off the governemnt teat, which I pay dearly for in the way of obscene taxes.

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  13. Mark RauterkusJanuary 5, 2010 at 7:23 AM

    Hi Jen,

    No doubt, you and I are with common ground now and then and are NOT joint at the hip in terms of global political views. Understood. Respected.

    Where there is a great deal of doubt (more WTF) comes when tags are placed on the political deeds/acts/legislation of Bruce Kraus.

    To pick a word from the thread above I'd say disingenious fits him best of all.

    My wish for him (BK) was to stay as the chair of public safety. (A no go.) It will be interesting to watch him in Public Works. (OMG. "Let the games begin."}

    As for me, well, it doesn't really matter. But, I'll pass myself off as a Common Sense Libertarian.

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  14. Really reallty true liberal, with a cherry on topJanuary 5, 2010 at 10:17 AM

    Mountaineer:

    Saying, in effect, "I'm right and you're wrong," or, "Because I said so," are not effective arguments and, consequently, don't prove your points.

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