Thursday, November 6, 2008

Meanwhile...

10 comments:

  1. your boy o'donnell went down hard. He got crushed... what would you attribute it to? The ads were damaging. I was thrilled democratic voters picked him so we could smash him in the general. What a crook. The funny part, is that he and those around him, including you act like everyone should believe your "side of the story" when the objective facts, as Tim mentioned, were against you. Its like you tried to change history. It was all over the press dumb dumb. I have two final projections this election season.... and im sure you may agree...

    1) odonnell is finished
    2) im predicting another bankruptcy by steve

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  2. I'm going to explore that. Near as I can tell, Murphy had too much of labor locked up, and Steve never raised the funds to play ball. The blogs need to operate less as cavalry charging in at the end, and more like, I don't know, some kind of naval blockade that secures the ground forces' position over months. I certainly don't acknowledge any "objective facts" about O'Donnell being a crook -- it sounds like you have far more of a personal beef against him than even a political one.

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  3. Murphy is pretty well liked. People really bought into his moderate message that he claims he has. He will represent that area until he doesn't want it anymore.

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  4. Yes i agree, Murphy is well-liked. I concur that he will represent the area as long as the democrats keep nominating bad candidates w/ no chance to win like this ODonnell guy. I do agree, this was too easy for Tim. This is and should be a huge credibility hit for those who picked ODonnell as the best choice to win. Heck... any of the other candidates could have gotten atleast 42 percent.. what Kluko got. Picking someone with shady past dealings crushed any support. That commercial by Murphy was a little over the top, but effective. i think i remembered hearing about this during Markoseks race and again in the primary. Couldnt believe they selected him. Couldnt fundraise either. They needed someone who could fundraise.

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  5. "This is and should be a huge credibility hit for those who picked ODonnell as the best choice to win."

    Well, fortunately I've got plenty to spare. At least the ACDC took the hit along with me on this one, right? Knowing what I know now, if I could go back, I think maybe I'd try that Erin Vecchio if anyone else. Sharp as a tack, that one, and no way they could have kept her out of the papers earning free media with that attitude.

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  6. Yes she was a good pick. There were a couple that would have faired much better. Moving forward, hopefully they'll smarten up.

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  7. i dont know if u have much political credibility in terms of judgement if this selection in this race is in any way an indicator of your "credibility". I do like your blog. I guess someone is sore at steve. probably the voters who had this scandal shielded from them... at his personal decision. Good thing he was not successful. Its probably someone who he ripped off or stole from in the past.

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  8. As long as we're right on the subject -- in a general sense, I've been suspecting some of the problem in PA-18 could generally be called Too Many Democratic Candidates that were in Too Hard a Fight. Did any of the one-time nominees for this seat line up and fight for O'Donnell, a la Hillary behind Obama? Would it have made a difference no matter who won, if the district's party was intent to split up, take their respective balls and go home after the primary? If so, that could be the real take-away lesson...

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  9. I don't think anyone wanted to associate themselves with O'Donnell because it would be a stain on their credibility. That's completely understandable. Thats why i did not support him. I would have been glad to support Wall, Hafer, or Dudding even though they didnt select Vecchio. I, however would not do the same for someone like O'Donnell.

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  10. I agree that the district's party split up. It was a rightful split because of the dismay of picking a dishonest candidate in ODonnell. And that bankruptcy thing was the final line for me. Im not sure the "lesson of the day" is to reverse fault on the rest of the party(obviously the smarter part)for supporting a dishonest and unethical candidate, when we needed an ethical candidate. You make your bed and lay in it is the old expression. It was in many ways an embarrassment that we ended up with ODonnell. I would have been proud to support any other selection put forth. I'd say that moving forward is a net plus for the Democratic Party because we're now smarter and O'Donnell won't likely run again... or this will likely come up again and again. Funny Markosek endorsed him just so ODonnell wouldnt run against him. He hammered ODonnell with this bankruptcy and rightfully so.

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